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Fort Belvoir Starbucks Charges Nine Employees Thousands for Drinks

Employees say coffee shop management secretly videotaped, and then charged them for consumed food and beverages.

Starbucks manager Stacy McDonald worked at the Fort Belvoir location for more than five years. As of Wednesday, she was fired after the company accused her of stealing $3.75 worth of merchandise while on the job.

Eight months pregnant, she has lost her health insurance and more than 200 hours of sick time that she was planning to use for maternity leave.

According to McDonald and some of her co-workers, the Army and Air Force Exchange Services (AAFES), which operates the 12th Street Starbucks on base, secretly videotaped its employees and accused them of stealing beverages and pastries on the job—and is docking some employees thousands of dollars in pay for doing so.

AAFES Loss Prevention interviewed a total of nine Starbucks employees who were told they owed money to AAFES, ranging from $3.75 to $13,951, McDonald said.

Employee Discovers Hidden Camera

A current employee, who asked his name be withheld due to the ongoing investigation, was cleaning the store on Dec. 22 and discovered a wire leading to a hidden camera. The employee contacted a supervisor and told her what he had found. He said he was instructed to leave the camera in place.

The camera remained in the store until Dec. 27. After that, employees who spoke to Patch aren't sure what happened to it, but a store manager reportedly contacted AAFES Security Loss Prevention to inform them that the camera was gone.

When asked why the camera was placed in Starbucks, AAFES spokesman Judd Anstey said in an email to Patch, "While the Exchange does not discuss the specifics of active investigations or security procedures, mobile video surveillance is used when potential misconduct or fraud is identified."

On Dec. 30, barista Kiara McKnight of Woodbridge arrived for her shift and was summoned to a meeting with Karen Bye, AAFES Loss Prevention manager, and Leo Varghese, AAFES headquarters investigator.

When a confused McKnight arrived at the loss prevention office, Varghese told her she was there for an internal investigation, McKnight said.

“[Varghese] printed a promissory note saying I owed $663 worth of milk and lemonade for adding it to coffee and tea,” said McKnight. “I drove back to work and thought about it. I thought it wasn’t right, and I revoked my promissory note the next day I came into work.”

McKnight requested a copy of her time and attendance record, which showed she worked 40 weeks. Varghese and Bye had charged McKnight based on 52 weeks of employment, McKnight said.

When McKnight returned to work after recanting on her promissory note, she was summoned to HR and was placed on suspension, she said. All nine employees were placed on a 30-day suspension, according to McDonald.

“I’ve been depressed because they’re labeling me as a thief, when I’m not,” said McKnight.

Two Seperate Beverage Policies

Starbucks corporate and AAFES each have separate, differing beverage policies. Both policies are concurrently in effect, according to Janice Blackwell of the National Association of Government Employees, a union that represents the Starbucks employees.

AAFES's policy states that while employees are on shift, they are authorized to have unlimited brewed coffee, tea, and fountain soda.

However, Starbucks' policy allows free beverages during work hours only before or after a shift or during a break and they must be entered into the computer for inventory tracking. The expectation is every barista is to sample coffee, espresso, milk and pastries to ensure quality and knowledge to provide effective information to customers.

Blackwell said AAFES proposed changes to its policy in November 2011. In order to negotiate the proposed changes, Blackwell requested information from AAFES because she was unclear on the specifics of those changes.

"AAFES never provided such [information on the specific proposed changes to the policy], therefore, no change was to be made until such time as the Union had the opportunity to bargain," Blackwell said in an email to Patch.

"The policies were very general and all employees had an understanding of what they were able to use," Blackwell continued. "It's a very unfortunate situation, and the other part of that situation is that it's a very ambiguous meal policy."

Interviews, Suspensions and Appeals

When AAFES Loss Prevention placed the concealed security camera in the store, they should have informed the union of their plans as per protocol, Blackwell said.

"It's an unfair labor practice," she said. "We just feel management didn't do a good job in this investigation."

McDonald was also brought in for a loss prevention interview. Varghese told her that employees were being brought in for theft and consuming products. According to McDonald, when she asked if the thefts involved employees walking out of the store with beverages, Varghese said no.

McDonald quickly asked to be excused from the interview. “The reason I left quickly was because I felt the focus of the interview was to try to incriminate me in some way,” she explained. “Once I requested that I have a lawyer, because of [Varghese’s] accusation, and when my rights were denied, I was immediately uncomfortable and felt harassed, so I left to end the interview.”

McDonald plans to appeal AAFES’ decision to fire her.

The union has responded to the proposed AAFES action, but it plans to file a grievance once the final decision has been made, Blackwell said.

Editor's Note: The AAFES Beverage Policy includes “bulk dispensed” coffee, tea, or soda at a “self service drink station," according to Judd Anstey, AAFES spokesman.

UPDATE Feb. 4, 6:25 a.m.: Stacy McDonald was fired for drinking an iced coffee and the price, $3.75 was actually miscalculated by AAFES, said McDonald in an email to Patch.

UPDATE Feb. 24, 9:58 a.m.: The National Association of Government Employees plans to file a complaint against AAFES on behalf of the Starbucks employees who were videotaped and charged for consumed food and beverages.

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V February 13, 2012 at 08:22 PM
CJ - I do not support "thieves." You think that I need to know what side of an argument to support?...would that be your side? I support the side that has better validity. I 100% agree with you when you talk about supporting businesses and business owners...at the same time, I won't give support to a business or business owner if they cannot give a black and white guideline. If they have policies too ambiguous, it leaves it up to the employees' interpretation. Starbucks told these employees to sample...then AAFES tells them they are thieves for sampling. Starbucks says the employees can have a drink on their shift...AAFES says they are "stealing." Seems like a two headed beast. They were AAFES associates working under the Starbucks name. How is it right to fire people when the company has two conflicting rules, and they don't take it upon themselves to clarify or adjust it? So, instead of correcting a problem and addressing it to the employees, it's better to just keep firing and re-hiring? That is counter productive. What kind of business do you run? You said that you're aware of how lousy the employee pool is, especially the youth - maybe the business owner needs to lead better, and the workers would display better work ethic.
CJ February 14, 2012 at 02:19 AM
V..You strike me as someone who is just a disrespectful, mouthy, smart aleak..that can't respond to reason...and argue for the sake of arguing. You are likely part of the problem. I already admitted i agree that many, or certainly some, of the employees may have cahrges exagerated agaisnt them. That said..I am only saying exagerated...but likely some validity. You really don't have any idea of what you are talking about when you take up for the present work force pool out there that comes from youth. You simpy do not know how bad it really is. To be fair...it is not just youth. That is because it has been going down hill a very long time now..and some of those people are not young anymore. The point is..the emplyee pool I spoke of is truly in poor shape. To make matters worse, the way the liberals have got all the laws so screwed up...an employer can run himself out of business by firing people. The cost of unemplyment insurance for your emloyees is very high. They can make up lies too easily and make claims. The business owner has little to protect himself. Sometimes all you can do is try to make a person quit.
CJ February 14, 2012 at 02:20 AM
V...(con't) With the kids today..if it is not one thing..it is another with them. The sad fact is that consumers are getting used to being treated badly by employees. There was a time when it did some good to talk to a manager..but now days they look at you like..''uh..there is really nothing I can do but apologize for them..." It has nothing to do with bad employers. I have had emloyees that I have loan money to in hard times, turn around and steal from me. You need to shut up.
Keith Whited February 14, 2012 at 03:44 AM
CJ - You are going off on so many tangents that it is difficult to even follow you. I don't disagree with some of your thoughts on youth today - many don't understand responsibility. That being said your comments have ZERO to do with this particular issue. Allow me to correct myself - - your comments have approximately 11.11% bearing on this issue . . . if you take time to read all of the previous comments you will notice that only one (1) of the nine (9) was a minor. The others all appear to have been adults. Hopefully we have cleared the air on that point. Beyond that, it appears that you have perhaps read some of the comments above and started jumping to conclusions. Any intelligent person who has followed this string from the very beginning would not be 'popping off' in the manner that you are. In the ORIGINAL article (above) it clearly states that there are two **conflicting** policies. Even though they are conflicting, BOTH policies still allow employees to have coffee, tea, soda, etc. for FREE while on the job. AAFES policy states: While employees are on shift, they are authorized to have **unlimited** brewed coffee, tea, and fountain soda. Starbuck Policy says: free beverages during work hours only before or after a shift or during a break and they must be entered into the computer for inventory tracking. The expectation is every barista is to sample coffee, espresso, milk and pastries to ensure quality and knowledge to provide effective information to customers.
Keith Whited February 14, 2012 at 04:27 AM
QUESTION CJ - - - - If BOTH policies allow employees to use product AND one of those policies goes so far as to say that employees are allowed **UNLIMITED** quantities of product how can any rational person say that they were stealing??? You indicated that 'V' strikes you as "disrespectful, mouthy, smart aleak (sic)..that can't respond to reason...and argue for the sake of arguing." Sir, with all due respect, I feel the same about you - - especially the part about responding to reason. In particular you are arrogant and opinionated and will attempt to insult anyone who doesn't agree with your view point. OK - - I've told you what I think . . . go ahead and blast me too. ANd while you're at it, stop hiding behind 'CJ'. Tell us your real name.
Mammy February 14, 2012 at 05:48 AM
Kieth Thank you so much for your comments. I appreciate the fact that someone actually understands the whole situation. I worked their and wish to stay annonymous. I sure you understand. As of now there are still some employees sitting in limbo awaiting the decision from our GM. Can you imagine sitting and waiting to know if you are fierd or still emplyeed. Me I will never go back to work for AAFES after the way they treated us. I could see if one person did something wrong and they get terminated but for two stores to be cleaned out of all employees tells me that something is misunderstood and I think AAFES knows this now. They expected everyone to just say "oh well we are terminated now we have to find new jobs." I don't think they ever realized that we would stand up for ourselves because "We did not steal anything". Most of us have worked at that store for over 6 years and the store was doing better in sales and the bottom line each year. All the customers loved our crew and we loved them also. We looked at our customers as family. Heck we as employees thought of ourselves as a second family. You know sometimes you spend more time at work with you crew than you do at home. We all miss the closeness we shared. I hope that AAFES finds it in their hearts to end this correctly and especially give back Stacy her sick leave.
Mammy February 14, 2012 at 05:49 AM
We did the same things everyday. We went through 4 general Managers and suddenly when the new one arrives she finds issues with our food policy and accuses us of stealing. NOT! V I definitly understand about your son. I was there and I know the truth. God Bless all the Starbucks Crew at both stores. Hold your heads up high and we will prevail.
CJ February 14, 2012 at 06:17 AM
Keith. All you have done is show what a pompous fool you are. You go through great lengths to look intellectual in your defense of employee theft. I have you pegged. I certainly am glad i don't know you. You are exactly the type of person I absolutely detest. To take up the cause for these employeees should embarass you. As far as using my real name...CJ ''is'' the name I have had all my life. I personlay think that is your own business to share your last name ...but it certainly is not a wise thing to do in this day and age. I am sure that make no sense to you either. There is no give to you. After all, in just a few clicks of the keys and a $1.98, anyone could find out where you live, your phone number...and even send you a picture of your house. Frankly, I shake my head in amazement at people who share private info over the internet. Especially combative oafs like yourself. You are entitiled to your opinon, but I think most people would side with me and not be surprise at all that a business was accusing some workers of ill behaviour. That is the norm or today. It is good to see Starbucks and AAFES take a stand against these kids..and i assure you..they are kids to me..even if technically they are adults ...stiffs like you alwasy focus on the remedial nit picky details. The point is it rediclulous to completely discount these accusations about these employees.
CJ February 14, 2012 at 06:18 AM
By the way..this is a blog...and you are not in charge of anything. There are no tight rules here and not many things would be considered a tangent. You ar a piece of work and really full of yourself.There is no blasting here....I am at ease with how I feel about this. You can go ahead and openly voice support for employee theft. It only points out futher what kind of a person you are. You are your worst enemy. I don't have to do anything to make you look bad..you are doing fine all by yourself
CJ February 14, 2012 at 06:20 AM
yeah..right..you and everyone else was there...tell me another good one...
CJ February 14, 2012 at 06:35 AM
All Starbucks are located in prime spots. Althought their stoes are small, they still have very expensive overhead. On top of that, Starbucks has relatively small inventory of items that are not high dollar. The owners often also have to pay expensive franchise fees..even AAFES. A business of this type can have ''very few thing not go exactly to fanchise rules'', or it will fail to make enough profit. Stabucks are a very fragile business and it is a struggle for a business like this to stay on top of things...small problems are not small problems to a business like this. Why don't more people here realize this. I am sure everyone has noticed how expensive food items cost now. The recent increase at the grocery stores over the last 2 years is alarming. It has been amazing that restaurant prices have been holding steady. That may be getting to change very soon...and stories like this may be just the beginning of more like it. Restaurants are having big problems right now. Starbucks is no different.
Keith Whited February 14, 2012 at 06:55 AM
Thank You CJ - - you have just proven my comments to be correct - - as stated before, you're arrogant and opinionated, and will attempt to insult anyone who doesn't agree with your view point. I'm certain all the reasonable folks following this will take note that your entire post was nothing more than an angry attack. And why so angry - - because I blew your argument clean out of the water. If you are so certain of your opinion why didn't you defend it by answering my question with some intelligent thoughts rather than spouting a stream of vitriol? Sir CJ - - I would not be a bit surprised if you were but a ‘kid’ compared to me as well - - but that’s really not important. As for using my full name - - I have nothing to hide. I am fully aware of how easy it is to track folks down on the internet. I do it all the time as a part of my own business. I don’t have a clue what kind of business you run (I wish I did so I could be sure not to patronize it) but I am a respected Mt. Vernon business owner myself since 1977. I can be found on multiple websites. Yes, there are a few whack-jobs that I should perhaps beware of - - but I wouldn’t want to name any names. Of course, if it comes right down to it they are relatively easy to ferret out as well. Will be gone for a day - - will check back when I return. Nytol . . . .
CJ February 14, 2012 at 09:16 AM
Keith..You do realize The Patch is a Nationally Syndycated news outlet tied in with Hufington Press/Aol..right? I am not really sure why I get some articles sent to me from other cities..but they are right here on my homepage along with articles from my own local Patch. I like Patch articles. I am retired US Army. Been retired out for over 25 years. Have had my own businesses (actually now on my 3rd business) since I got out. My employees ruined my first business (home remodeling). I bailed out of the second one ( a restaruant franchise) out of disgust for the work pool. I now run a a business with my sons and don't deal with the public as much..but I sure don't miss it..or the high school and college age kids I had to deal with. I live in Kansas, and also own a home in St Petersburg, Florida. I am not sure why that is even relelvant , just like my full name. This article stands alone as a news story I read and commented on..and regardless of whether I live there or not...you would have to be living in a daze to not agree that across the board..any fast food place you go..the service is dreadful. I am not saying all businesses with young people are like this..just reastaurants. You seriously don't know what a headache it is dealing with the youth of today in restaurants.
CJ February 14, 2012 at 09:16 AM
I have explained plenty of things to you. It is ''you'' who is not open minded. Of course all these local Starbucks people are going to try and cover their backs. I am just saying I think they are all lying and you are too dumb to realize it also. So...AFFES Loss Control people are nuts? That's a pretty weak argument..but it's all you got.
CJ February 14, 2012 at 09:44 AM
I am done here..this blog is spent and worn out. When I encounter someone like Keith, it often brings to mind a line from one of my favorite songs by Hank Williams Jr..''A Country Boy Can Survive''...when he sings the line:..''I'd like to spit some beechnut in that dude's eyes''... I find little use for people in this world that defend the wrong cause. Employees attitudes like this help degrade our country. Between all their stealing, their cell phone calls, their texting, being rude to cutomers, being late, not comeing in, not calling in, wanting unscheduled days off, not wanting to clean anything, poor sanitation, sneaking off to smoke, drug use, ...honestly..I could go on and on with this list.. On top of this you have to put up with the dangers they pose to just fabricate some story about being hurt, sexual harassment, if they are ADD..ADDHD...''whatever''..bi-polar, on medications, gay, racist's , thugs.... I'm going to quit...nobody here is listening.
DAVE February 14, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Thanks for the dissertation CJ. Please step away from the computer, slowly, come out of the basement, and take your meds or feed the cows or trip to OZ. I'm pretty sure the the CJ stands for complete jerk. I can understand why you don't deal with the public anymore after 2 failing businesses that depend on dealing rationally with the public. The only saving grace is that you live in Kansas so we won;t have to deal with you in Northern VA.
Jessie Biele (Editor) February 14, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Hi all, Thanks so much for your comments, just a reminder to keep it civil. Jessie Biele, Local Editor
Keith Whited February 14, 2012 at 03:03 PM
Thought I'd check in before hitting the road. OMG!! KANSAS . . . Long shot but does CJ stand for Carl Joseph? Tell me it's you and you've just been jerking my chain!!! That would explain a lot 'cause I really didn't want to believe anyone could have such a negative, twisted view of the world.
CJ February 14, 2012 at 09:55 PM
The Oz comment is one I obviously have heard before..but will also find very funny. Not too many cows here in Johnson County , Ks...one of the most affluent counties in the entire USA. I won't even start with what the rest of the country thinks of the area where you live...but it is not nearly as amusing as jokes about Toto, Dorothy, etc. Did you miss the part where I said I also own a home in St Petersburg, Florida? We recently sold our small home we owned outside of Hilo, Hawaii to buy the one in Florida because we are moving permanently to it next month. Tired of the cold. Now I will have to put up with the jokes about Florida , which are ''almost'' as seedy as the ones I hear about Northern VA...but not quite as bad. We should all be so lucky to have been raosed in Kansas. Nice place. We even spell ''thief'' the same way there, as they do where you are at.
CJ February 14, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Gee, Kieth..you got me. Sure can't put one over you..you guessed it..yep..that's me. Carl Joseph. At least I am that person in your daze and confusion. That said..I would not pull your chain...that would be cruel to tease a simpleton like you. I am not a bully and do not pass on ill comments to others unwarranted. I save those comments for people such as thiefs. My ''negative, twisted view of the world'' is one that does not stand up for thieves. You are welcome to take on their ruse. I will keep the world I live in..you can have the la la land you live in. As I said, I retired out of the US Army over 25 years ago..I have little to prove to anyone as to my judge of people or charachter..or what is right and what is wrong.
CJ February 14, 2012 at 10:19 PM
The 3rd (business) one was the charm..doing more than ''OK'' now. My sons and I are starting business number 4 in Florida...''and'' I will be going back to hiring people again..but it won't be the restaurant business. We are going to be selling electric vehicles such as scooters and alternative neighborhood electric vehicles (NEV's). There is nothing rational about dealing with the younger employees in the restaurant business. It more like running a psycho ward. It is going to be an interesting change for us in Florida..no doubt about that. I am not so bad to work for. If you knew what some of my past employees were like, you would see things differently. You would swear they were from some heathen place like Northern VA. Isn't ''Deliverance'' the all time favorite movie there?
CJ February 14, 2012 at 10:29 PM
yeah..we know you would not call anyone a name...you are a hypocrite..or should I say ''dolt''...
CJ February 14, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Too bad Dave's comment to me calling me a ''dolt'' got deleted. I don't see any reason for censorship. Nothing but people having fun here. I looked up ''dolt'' in the urban dictionary..somewhat hilarious, really: ''A mental retard who is clueless not only about current events, but also has the IQ level of a rock''. But, Dave. You went too far. Call me dolt, but don't call me a Mental Retard. ''Dolt''? Yeah ..I can be that sometimes. My sons tell me so everyday. But... I have a lot of compassion for the disabled....retard jokes are not funny.
Jessie Biele (Editor) February 14, 2012 at 11:01 PM
Hi again, Another reminder to please keep the conversation civil, and I also ask that conversations stick to the topic of the above article. Thanks! Jessie Biele, Local Editor
CJ February 14, 2012 at 11:03 PM
Everyone climbed on my back over the thief dispute, but I wonder why nobody ever replied back to my comment about wondering how fat a person would be if they had stolen $13,000 worth of Starbuck's drinks. I'm just sayin'... If there is ''anyone'' I doubt this story is false about..it is ''that'' person. But I think AFFES Loss Control is probably correct in most of the other accusations. That is what these people are trained to do. They know their job and how to bust people. Why is that an unreasonable position for me to take and for most people to beleive? If you want to align your support with anyone, it should be with the Loss Control employees. What ..their jobs don't matter? ''Think'' about this people.
CJ February 14, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Sorry, Jessie..you are right. If I have been over zealous in my retorts, I apologize. Seems nobody here wants to ''consider'' than many, or most, of the AFFES Loss Control charges are accuarate. I am sure AFFES Loss Control employees are trained on the conflicting rules that have been brought up..and they still made their charges based on sound grounds. I have confidence with the training in all aspects of the militray. It is the best training in the world. AFFES Loss Control is likely a fine organization of professionals...not simply Starbucks employees. I have tried to point out significant arguments on how AFFES Loss control should be geting more support. Afterall...they are protecting funds that go to our soldiers. When it come to the military...I ''always'' know where my support should be. I will always be on the side of the soldier. God bless those that are serving us as we speak. AFFES employees and also soldiers using their real names, probably have their hands tied here ..but would like to comment..but simply ''can't''. That is not so with me..so I am attempting to speack for them. I am now a civillian and not an AFFES employee..so my hands are not tied at all. I am sure there are plenty of people who would like to support more of my replies, but I am largely on my own here. I am confident I have a lot more support than it may appear.
Barbara Love April 25, 2012 at 05:29 AM
This situation has just happened to my son here at AFFES on Fort Campbell. They are labeling him a thief for tasting the product with a toothpick when his manager told him too. Its isn't right and he is devastated because he says he did what he was told to do. He was told to always sample your product before putting it out by the manager to make sure the food was edible . They use toothpicks to sample it! They made him fill out a promissary note, sign a confidentiality form , told him it was best he quit or be charged with thief and told the other employees if asked why he left to tell people he was stealing from the resturant. The others that were force to quit have said the same. I will continue to probe into this situation until I get some answers and will take it as far as it can go.
ven12 April 27, 2012 at 05:57 PM
On Ft. Belvoir there was an employee union that was able to help the non-management employees some. They were able to drag the process out for awhile and a few long term employees kept their jobs but were reassigned. The majority essentially got a months paid leave during they investigation and moved on to different (and to be honest, much better) jobs after quitting or being fired. You should try to see if there is a union available to help, but at the end of the day, this is what AAFES loss prevention does and your son should take it as an indication that there are much better places to work. One thing to keep in mind is that as an employee YOU CAN WALK OUT of a 5 hour interrogation at any time, while you might end up getting fired, once you are at that stage, the goal of the interrogator is to get you to sign a paper saying you owe as much as they can, and has NOTHING TO DO WITH THEFT OR DETERMINING THE TRUTH. Usually they give a 24 hour time period to reconsider and take back your statement, which I think most people do. The whole process is appears to be a way for loss prevention to pump up their "stats", so they can say they stopped $40K of theft at Starbucks last year, etc..
Jake Dryden McSweeney September 14, 2013 at 10:05 AM
CJ you are a very sad, sad man.. :/ I support the employees. My dad was in Vietnam.
CJ September 14, 2013 at 10:53 AM
I know just what type of employee you are, Jake. You do ''OK'' (not good, but OK) when it is time to take care of the customers...except for being rude to them...but the job pool is so tainted now days for employers...we have to put up with that. The ''sad'' things (plural) about an employee like you...since you brought up what is sad...it that when there are ''no'' customers...that is when an employee let's down not only his employer...but also the general public. You show your expertise at ''shamming'', and your kind is ''very'' good at it. You ignore rules about not using your phones or whatever while on the clock...yes even pulling it out of your pocket to ''check it'' for messages, etc...constitutes grounds to be fired. And ''yes''...before you ask...I'm serious. but I understand the fact you don't ''get that''. Again...''sad''...but true. Additionally, you will take excessive bathroom breaks...but not to use the bathroom. You will just hang out in the bathroom to avoid work duties. You may even catch a 5-10 minute snooze...but of course...you certainly will hide in there and sometimes , if not each time, use you phone some more. But the temptation to simply snooze for 5 or 10 minutes is equally tempting as the banned phone use. I know...you were up late...and got little sleep. That also explained why you were also late to clock in. You might even hang out with the bathroom odor to perhaps even just to squeeze in a game...but more likely some Facebook, Twiiter, Candy Crush, or Sim Center. Throughout your work shift...you will use the bathroom to do all of the above. Then, of course, you will actually have to ''also'' take bathroom breaks to actually use the bathroom. Then there is the cigarette break scams you pull. I won't list the 1000 ways that employees like you use to get a puff in. Cleaning? Please....we know you don't do that. It does not even do us any good to ''fire you''. Whoever we hire next may even be worse than you. Your generation has serious work ethics problems. Many job fields today used to be filed by youth from ''my '' generation. Fast Food. Construction. ''All'' jobs...and endless list. Now days , numerous of those jobs are ''only'' filled by minorities or even illegals. Even Ex Convicts. Your generation blames in on our government letting too many people into our Country ...or ''whatever''...but the truth is...they are actually a better employee than your kind will ever be. Your type only amounts to anything if they somehow manage to work up to a better paying job...or a family business, etc. But up to that point...at beginning wages...you have screwed around every other employee you ever worked for. I don't have the time to write more...but the faults with people like you are legendary. You deal with it by having no empathy or shame. Half of our countries problems lie with the fact our future lies in the hands of your kind. we can see how things are going. Thanks. Think how much you children will also thank you when they are of old age and hear bout how great our country used to be. Your Dad is likely a very fine man...My experience in Vietnam also help mold my fine character....just like your Dad's did...but he is not the first good Father to end up with a sorry chump like you for a kid. If you ever went into the military, no doubt you would be crying PTSD as soon as you got out. Oh boo hoo...cry me a river.

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